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I initially asked the question on France/US relations to see what others thought of the future relationship between our 2 countries as we all have ties to France. I did not do it to instigate political views. Everyone has their opinions. While some I agree with and others I do not, I don't think we should continue to politicize this site and risk harming relationships among ourselves or causing offense to others as this can be a passionate subject. But you are all free to do as you like.
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1 NEPHI 4:13 "Behold the Lord slayeth the wicked to bring forth his righteous purposes. It is better that one man should perish than that a nation should dwindle and perish in unbelief." --- I hope that from this war comes the opportunity for the gospel to be preached in the Middle East where freedom of religion does not currently exist.
D&C 133: 37 "And this gospel shall be preached unto every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people."
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Doctrine and Covenants sec. 98, while speaking specifically of the saints' persecution in Missouri, has some rather interesting things to say about warfare, justifications for warfare and blessings that come for those who forgive trespasses rather than seek war.
What the Lord says, of course, lines up perfectly with what He's said before in forgiving our enemies (forgiving seventy times seven, et cetera) IN sec. 98 the Lord establishes criteria that must be met before armed conflict can be justified, but also says (v. 30) "if thou shalt spare him (your enemy), thous shalt be rewarded for thy righteousness; and also thy children and thy children's children unto the third and fourth generation." That sounds pretty appealing to me.
Yes, the Nephites and Lamanites defended themselves against the Gadianton robbers. But the people of Ammon were willing to die rather than sin in killing others. Maybe they know better than the Nephites, Lamanites and the rest of us that the reason we're here on Earth isn't to see who can live the longest, but to become more like our Father in Heaven.
My Dad was a civilian in the Netherlands during World War II, and though he's ever grateful for the blessings that ceme when two Canadians on a motorcycle puttered into his village and told them they were liberated, he'd be the first to say that he who lives bythe sword will die from the sword. He told me once, talking about all those who died during the war, all those who died in concentration camps at the hands of the Nazis, that God was off in some corner of Heaven, crying, but willing to give us the free agency he promised. I'm sure he's in that corner, crying some more today.
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"And again I would exhort you that ye would come unto Christ, and lay hold upon every good gift, and touch not the evil gift , nor the unclean thing."
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Elder Scheible - I would just like for you to answer as to why you think Pres. Bush has actually put us into Iraq and then give us the great solution the world is looking for to help Saddam step down peacefully?!
Gilles François - The New Testament is great and very very important to know and understand, but what about the Book of Mormon? When the Gadianton robbers began to destroy the freedom and peace and harm the land of the Nephites they united with their brothers (who were not fond of them) the Lamanites, to completely destroy the robbers as they saw the eventual devastation these terrorists would evoke on their land. Just as some of the great leaders of the Nephite people learned sometimes the answer is to fight terror and tyranny head on with force. And did not American and French revolutions result from tyrannical rule and suppression of rights just as Saddam reigns over his people.
This is not a war over oil and political gain, but to destroy a terror and threat to all people the world over from the reign of a regime such as Saddam's.
I pray for our troops and for this thing to end soon and that a peace that is in no way a free, give will reign in place of tyrannical dictatorship.
Love y'all, especially my French friends!!
Adam C. Spencer
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I respect Canada for not following the USA like a drone, whether the decision is right or not, every country must make their own decision.
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I have to say that i am getting very frustrated with many things. It seems to me that the French Government and the US Government are telling their respective countries different things. I have had a few different emails from different families that I know in France. I am so very tired of their lack of knowledge and understanding which obviously stems from what the media is feeding them. Maybe some of you have thought of this, but does anyone remember someone by the name of Hitler??? No one cared to take very much notice of him until he had taken over a few countries. No one knew of the things he did to the Jews and to his own people. I do not belive Saddam to be of the same level of power, but i do believe him to be a dictator doing things that are just as bad, but not of the same magnitude, as Hitler. I just do not understand how people think that Bush is going to war over oil, gas, petrol whatever you want to call it. The United States learned their lesson. I am glad that we are doing what we are doing. I believe in standing up for what is right. Of helping others, and I believe that if Captain Moroni or any other great men of the Book of Mormon were here today, they would feel the same. If I or my country can do something to make the world a better place, I am totally for it.
I'm not writing this to get a response. I just feel like this is the best place to let my feelings be heard on the subject since it is way too expensive to call France.
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Lors de l'attaque du 11 septembre 2001, nous étions en pleine conférence de zone et Président Wilcox nous a demandé de rentrer tout de suite à nos appartements. Et j'ai juste pleuré comme un bébé car toutes ces familles épleurées, toute cette tristesse et détresse étaient trop horribles et insupportables...
Puis des tonnes de pensées ont traversé mon esprit : est-ce déjà le début de cette dernière guerre annoncée dans Apocalypse ? Biensûr je suis en mission mais suis-je prête à quitter ce monde ? Ma famille est-elle prête ?
Toutes ces questions m'ont aidée à comprendre que le Seigneur exige que l'on se prépare individuellement pour le rencontrer à sa Seconde Venue.
Je pense que notre Père Céleste doit être bien assez attristé par ces guerres où tant de ses enfants souffrent et meurent et que nous ne devons pas lui causer encore plus de chagrin en confrontant nos opinions... au delà des frontières nous sommes tous du même Royaume : celui du Christ !
Je pense aussi que j'ai assez de travail à faire sur moi-même avant de commenter nos politiciens car j'ai la chance et le privilège d'avoir l'Evangile dans ma vie contrairement à eux.
Bien affectueusement,
Rayms
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I never managed to get a patch of the French flag. I was wondering if anybody could tell where I could get a backpack patch...
Je n'ai jamais trouve un blason pour l'ecoudre sur mon sac-a-dos quand j'etais en mission. J'ai des blasons des villes dans les quelles j'ai servi. Peut-etre quel qu'un peut m'aider avec ma cherche? MERCI.... Longue vie a la site "La Mission Francaise de Bordeaux" et ses missionnaires!!! :)
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I think its great that France has taken a stance on the war. In fact I think its great that they are opposed to war. They have a right to be. I think its wise not to go against the UNs request. France isnt sitting on any fence. They have clearly chosen a side. France isnt the only country, either. Germany, Russia, China, Canada
these countries have all declared that they will not aid in the attack on Iraq at this time. At least not until it is sanctioned by the UN. Russia and China are being very vocal on this matter as well. The truth is that many of these countries, France included, will be there to clean up the damage in Iraq. They will go in and help rebuild the nation. This is called a humanitarian effort. Its the only humane action in war, and it happens after the death and carnage. Will France be there to help in that effort? I believe so. But this will happen after the bombs stop falling, the firing ceases, and the stars and stripes have been raised in Baghdad. I still carry the red, white, and blue flag on my backpack everyday. La Liberté, Fraternité, et Egalité.
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