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place that sells mugicha? 13 Apr 2004
Hogle Zoo, huh?...maybe dog food is cheaper. ;-)

Sure. Most of the Asian markets sell it. In Salt Lake, you can get it at Sage Market on Main between 1300 and 1700 S, or Pares on Redwood and 3300 S, or the Asian store on 700 E just south of Trolley Square.
Richard Wilcox Send Email
 
Bikes 12 Apr 2004
Things sure have changed since I was there from 1976 to 1978. There was no shortage of bikes for the asking! Each apt. usually had 2-3 extra bikes and none ever went on a transfer. We would get bikes given to us all the time when we were out knocking on doors. I can't imagine being a missionary and having to buy a bike in Japan. This is not a slam against current missionaries, it's just so different from my jidai. We could move into a new apartment and pretty much furnish it in a good week from everything that was thrown away on the side of the roads and streets, combined with the good hearts of the people.
M Neal Bowes Send Email
 
Mugi 12 Apr 2004
"But seriously, I'd like to find it. I eat oatmeal for breakfast now because I can't find mugi - at least not in the form that we got it from the honbu - was that rolled wheat?. "
I believe mugi is either barley or rye. My wife says that mugi is sometimes called "brown rice" in the U.S.
Kenji Masato Oman Send Email
 
Bikes in Japan 12 Apr 2004
Maybe everyone had a better bike shop than I did but I had a hard time finding a bike that fit me very well. I am 6'2" and most Japanese aren't that tall so most bike shops don't carry many larger bikes. That said I paid almost $700 for my bike! That goodness my dad shoved some extra cash in my pocket at the airport!! Also a full 2 piece rainsuit would be a smart thing to take over with you. I found one that fit me but it was extremely lucky! When you are riding your bike in the rain it's nice to stay somewhat dry.
Scott D. Pickett Send Email
 
Re: Mugi 12 Apr 2004
Hmmm, If I remember correctly.. THe rumor was that the Honbu got it from the local zoo...

You might check out the Hogle Zoo there in Salt Lake.......

Seriously though, I couldn't tell you for sure, but if you're down in Provo ever, there's a place called "Chao's" on Center Street, and a place called "Many Lands" at about 1100 North and 500 West that are worth checking into.

(By the way, while Mugi was something I'd just as soon never see again, right up there with Nato, has anyone found a place that sells mugicha?)
Jeremy A. Stallard Send Email
 
$500 Bicycle 12 Apr 2004
Wow, prices have gone up in the last 13 years....

In my first area, (Suehiro) we found a mom and pop bicycle place that had a sale going on. I wound up with a fairly nice Bridgestone mountain bike for about $250.

As far as what I'd recommend... Mountain bikes were good for all the hills in a lot of the areas that I was in. I'd never recommend the chari's, as you just can't get the "umph" to get up some of those hills. (Anyone remember Abashiri?) Although a good street/racing style bike wouldn't be a bad purchase either.

On the other hand, what I would recommend if he purchases a bike over there is that he gets one with the fewest breakable parts as possible. Missionaries put those bikes through an awful lot that they weren't exactly designed for. (In other words, go for the lever type gear shifts instead of the spring loaded quick changer, normal straight forks instead of the full blown suspension) But that's just my opinion.

If you do purchase a bike here, make sure that he has all the tools he'll need to do the repair work on it if it's a standard set. Everything over there is metric.

I'd recommend a good tire repair kit (lots of extra patches), a chain repair kit (little screw in thing for taking a link out of the chain so you can replace broken chain) and that sort of thing.

There are, of course, repair shops there, but it was a whole lot cheaper fixing things myself when I was there. (1000 yen for a flat repair. 2500 yen to replace a broken link in the chain.. New rims for the wheels were enough to make me want to cry)...

Then again.. Those that remember my luck with bikes in Japan are probably laughing thinking "You wouldn't have had so much trouble with the bikes if you didn't crash quite as often."
Jeremy A. Stallard Send Email
 
Mugi?! 12 Apr 2004
Why would anyone want to eat mugi if they didn't have to? Back in the mid 70's while I was in Hokkaido, the only reason you ate mugi was because you couldn't afford to eat anything else!

Wilcox Kyodai, if you really want to eat true to standard mugi here in the USA, you will need to go to a feed store and buy a bag of wheat meal for Chicken Feed. That's all we could afford to buy while we were in Japan.

Of course, you will need to screen-out the cock roaches, wire, rocks etc. before you cook it (or maybe not).

We used to have a saying that went something like this: "You can always tell how long a missionary has been in Hokkaido. At the beginning of their mission, he/she will screen-out all of the foreign material they can find in their Mugi. During the middle of their mission they will screen-out only the big pieces. At the end of their mission they will just put a little more sugar on it and eat it as is".

Personally, I vowed to never touch the stuff after I returned from Japan - and I haven't broken that vow yet!
Fred M Lloyd Send Email
 
Chari 12 Apr 2004
You're not a Sapporo missionary unless you ride a Chari. It is more difficult to ride in the snow but that's part of the fun. They're far more comfortable than mountain bikes and the only time in your life that you will ride one without feeling like a fool is on a mission. Chari's all the way.
David Bruce Watts Send Email
 
Bicycle 12 Apr 2004
I bought a brand new ten-speed bike when I got to Japan. After my first transfer, I found a set of mountain bike handlebars and put those on it. Then I found a wide seat with springs. Next I got a big basket for the front, and two collapsible baskets for each side of the rear.
Then I found a lighter-weight mountain bike frame, and moved it all over.

So, I ended up with a parts-and-pieces bike.

We'd put plastic garbage sacks over the seat, which repelled the water better. After more than a year of just putting more bags on the seat, the springs rusted through, and I had to get another seat.
Dustin Caldwell Send Email
 
$500 bike in Japan 12 Apr 2004
Expect to pay $500 for a mountain bike, which is what most elders ride. Most of the sisters and a few elders buy "chari" bikes. 99% of the Japanese people ride these. I was just in Japan in December, and these start at about $200 and are fine for missionary work. They are more comfortable because they allow you to sit upright and are less likely to be stolen, but may not work very well for you if you're much over 6'. The only advantage the mountain bikes provide is a little better traction in the snow. The extra traction is especially nice in hilly areas.
Richard Wilcox Send Email
 
Mugi 12 Apr 2004
There is a store here in Seattle that carries it called Uwajimaya. They carry most of those hard to find things we used to enjoy. I would check out their website.

Cheers - Deana :-)
Deana D. Ross Send Email
 
RE: $500 bike in Japan 12 Apr 2004
When I was there (93-95), we used a very reliable shipping service. On transfer day, you box up your stuff and they come pick it up with your bike and majically it finds it's way to your next apartment.

There isn't a shortage of bikes in Japan and the Doller is doing OK. So I would suggest that he buy something over there. Anyone disagree?
Jason Lowry Send Email
 
Mugi Follow-up 12 Apr 2004
Have you tried Zoom? it's basically the same thing and available at any grocery store.
Jason Lowry Send Email
 
Where can we get mugi? 12 Apr 2004
Remember the mugi we were able to order through the honbu? It kept me regular and was actually palatable if eaten with a heap of brown sugar.

But seriously, I'd like to find it. I eat oatmeal for breakfast now because I can't find mugi - at least not in the form that we got it from the honbu - was that rolled wheat?. I've looked at some of the grocery stores here (in Salt Lake) and not been able to find it. Anybody know a store that sells it or somewhere that we can order it?
Richard Wilcox Send Email
 
$500 bike in Japan 10 Apr 2004
Does anyone have experience with folding bicycles? My son Kenji will need to purchase a bike in Japan or pay $75 to have one shipped there. The mission says to be prepared to spend up to $500 for a bike. What type of bike would you recommend for a mission in Hokkaido? I thought that perhaps a 26inch folding bike might be convenient when it comes to transfer time. Do the missionaries ship their bikes on the trains? For $500 we could buy a bike in the U.S. and have it flown over. I was looking at bikes on http://www.dahon.com/folding-bicycles-us-26.htm. Those bikes are made in China. Perhaps they are also available in Japan. How are the prices for bikes in Japan compared to U.S. prices?

Any recommendations?

Paul Oman
Kenji Masato Oman Send Email
 
Shishido Kyodai in Otaru 09 Apr 2004
Did anyone here know Brother Shishido from the Otaru ward? Elder Barrus and I taught and baptized him in late 1990, when he was in his sixties. He was certainly a 'kinjin' at the time, and I've often wondered what became of him. I transfered from Otaru in spring of '91.
Dustin Caldwell Send Email
 
About Elder Kikuchi 08 Apr 2004
For those, like me, who may not remember Elder Bin Kikuchi there is a profile page on the Tokyo North mission website:

http://www.mission.net/japan/tokyo/north/presidents.php?prID=629

Not to be confused with Elder Yoshihiko Kikuchi of the First Quorum of the 70, who also happens to be from Hokkaido (Muroran).
Alex F Gonzalez Send Email
 
Tohru Hotta 06 Apr 2004
Yes, I heard his name read during the sustainings for new area authority (seventies?).
Craig Larsen Andrew Send Email
 
Pres Hotta - Area Authority 70 06 Apr 2004
You're right John, President Hotta was sustained in the Saturday Morning session as an Area Authority 70.
Jeff Hall Send Email
 
Pres. Hotta 06 Apr 2004
You're right! He is listed on those called as Area Authority Seventies: "Tohru Hotta, 65, Nagoya, Japan".

Here is a link to the article in Deseret News:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595053748,00.html

Thanks for pointing that out.
Alex F Gonzalez Send Email
 
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