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I have always wondered if any other Brits - that's true Brits born and raised subjects of H.M., ever served in Norway? While I served in Norway, I asked that question of several of the older life long members up and down the country, but they could not recall ever meeting a British missionary prior to me - I know that my polling was very unscientific and probably doesn't mean much. There were also a few expats (Skien) and dual citizens living in Norway too, and they didn’t know either. So, once off my mission and living in SLC, I inquired with the Church's History and Missionary Departments, but alas they too were unable to give me an answer. So, if your a Brit by the aforementioned definition or know an Brit ex-missionary who served at any time in Norway, please leave a message!
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As a greenie in Baerum living in the "office elder" flat, I remember hearing talk of removing the H&M billboard just down the road. I thought it a trap--the AP's and others seeing if I would fall into it and then scold me for it. I don't recall if anyone ever took it, but it did get quite a few stares whenever we drove past. One night, after a fierce rain storm, it was gone. I think Mike King had something to do with it...
I offer that the Sisters perhaps were more into collecting H&M material than the Elders--my poor minnebok; it has some interesting pasted material from various sisters. I remember being a bit embarassed when my parents went through the book when I returned to the states--I had some 'splainin to do.
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I was never able to get away with an entire Billboard, kudos to mr skjåvik! I actully used skjåvik's pants that were left in the Skien apartment. They were in the basements of the Bishop's (Isaksen I think). They were a little large but I'm not that big to begin with.
I picked up every H&M postcard that they had available for the Christmas of 1996 campaign. I sent some to my brother who was on his mission in New Jersey, he was grateful. I didn't know what to do with the rest so I put the in the "hybel reject" closet in Tønsberg. I hung them up in there like they were in a school locker. Well one day the AP's came to visit and decided to go through the apartment. I had forgotten all about the postcards. So when they opened up that closet I was almost at a loss for words. I told them I put them there so I wouldn't see them "everyday" (because that made it better). When they asked why didn't just throw them away I told them "you don't just throw away pictures of the ones you love!(there went my chances of being an AP, shucks!)
I loved those cards!
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I never removed an H&M poster from a billboard, but I did take pictures - not just of Nicole Smith. Remember in the summer of '95 Pamela Anderson did a swim suit billboard campaign for H&M. In my Minne Bok a couple of the Oslo Sisters stuck magazine cut outs of the Christmas adds.
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Does anyone have contact with the Nelsons? I visited them in 1990 in a suberb of SLC but cant for the life of remember where. Suzanne is a fellow Brit and servered 1982 to 84 and Chad was 81 -83 I think. They married in 88. Any info would be good
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Just a quick question... how many of you RM's stole H&M billboards? You know the one's I'm talking about. Winter & Summer - during my mission I can remember many Elder's figuring out new and inventive ways to take these things down and put them up in their apartments.
Sadly, I must confess that I helped Elder Sjaavik take one down in Stavanger after it had already started to fall off due to heavy rain.
I was however, impressed with the dedication Sjaavik showed as he dried and ironed the billboard in order to ship it home.
So who else has done this and what were the most effective methods for removing them that you used.
Joel
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I am here in my home office with Joel Hinckley, who is currently vacationing in Pittsburgh, and Scott Johnson, who now lives in Pittsburgh and works for Heinz. It has been a very long time since I last logged onto this website and boy has it changed - for the better. I am logged on as Scott because time has caused me to forget my own log-on and password. Hopefully Mr. Jezek can remedy that soon. A word of caution, please ignore my profile for the time being, until I can update it. And by golly it certainly needs updating. As stated, I no longer live in Ohio, nor work for the named bank, nor am I married to the same woman. I am still an active Mormon, who reminisces about his mission on a regular basis. I can still taler Norsk. I am remarried and have two sons. I work for a GSE. My wife is a grad of BYU and is music teacher and member of the Pittsburgh Mendelssohn Choir. I am still a Brit waiting on my US citizenship. I am currently pursuing a MS in Behavioral Studies. This September my family and I will be visiting Oslo for three days. Other alumni I have had contact with are Carl Whitaker, the Perry's and Cecil Hedrich. I would love to hear from more alumni or friends of the mission.
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In case any brave souls out there want to try it, Sizzle is a basic brownie recipe, only you half the flour and double the butter and sugar. Bake it according to directions, then when it's ready, take it out, scoop some into a bowl, then pour milk over it. The better the Sizzle, the longer it will--obviously--sizzle. (Warning: don't make unless you're a missionary. With their blessing to be immune to poisoning, it's the only defense against this concoction killing you!
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Risengrynsgrøt
1 Cup Short Grain or Pearl Rice
(it is usually found among the inexpensive
rices in a bag in most grocery stores. If
you can't find that, use Shirakiku rice in the
Asian section of the store it is exactly the
same)
2 Cups Water
2 Cups Milk
1/4 tsp Salt
Sugar or sweetener to taste
Put the rice in a pan and rinse it over and over again until the water runs clear. Once the rice is clean add the salt and 2 cups of water. Boil on low heat until the water is almost gone. Then add the milk. Turn down the heat to simmer and cook until the milk is almost gone. Stir frequently while cooking with the milk.
Once the milk is gone it is ready to serve as Risengrynsgrøt. Serve with melted butter and sugar and cinnamon.
For a dessert
Use above mixture
2 cups whipping cream
1 Tbs. vanilla
Sweetener to taste
Let the rice mixture cool completely in the refrigerator. Whip 2 cups whipping cream with 2 tbs sugar (or to taste) and 1 tsp vanilla. Fold the cool risgrøt into the whipped cream. It should take on the appearance of cottage cheese. Be careful not to stir to hard as it could cause the air to go out of the whipped cream. Serve with Rød Saus.
Rød Saus
1 basket rasberries
2 cups water
2 Tbs. corn starch
1/4 cup COLD water
Sweetener to taste
I like to make my sauce with fresh raspberries. Take a basket of fresh raspberries and cook them with about 2 cups of water. Mash the berries as they cook to bring out all their juices. Once you are sure there is no more juice left in the raspberry pulp strain it out and keep the juice. Stir 1-2 Tbs. corn starch into about 1/4 cup COLD water. Let the corn starch dissolve completely. Add the cold corn starch liquid to the warm raspberry juice. Cook over low heat stirring constantly until the mixture thickens to form the consistency of a thin sauce. Sweeten to taste. Let cool, but stir periodically as it can thicken while cooling... If it gets too thick stir in some water a little at a time.
Serve the Riskrem with the Rødsaus. It makes a great holiday dessert or a nice refreshing summer dessert as well.
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Here is a recipe for risgrøt:
4 to 6 servings
3 cups of cooked rice
4 1/2 cups of milk
1 tablespoon margerine or butter
1/8 teaspoon salt
2-3 tablespoons sugar
In a large heavy saucepan, combine well-drained rice with milk. Cook, covered, over low heat until milk is absorbed; stir occasionally. Stir in the margerine (butter), salt, and sugar. Chill. Serve with cream or apple compote.
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I make risgrøt several times a year for Christmas or other special occasions.
Here is my recipe:
Norwegian Rice Pudding with Raspberry Fruit Sauce
Serves eight
Ingredients:
4 cups Whole Milk*
8 Tbs. (1 stick) Butter or Margarine
1 tsp. Salt
3/4 cup Pearl Rice**
1 pint Heavy Cream
2 tsp. Vanilla Extract
4 Tbs. Sugar
1. Put milk, butter and salt into large pan. Bring
to a boil, watch carefully as it begins to boil
and remove from heat before milk boils over.
2. Add rice. Turn stove down to low and simmer
approximately one hour covered with a lid
until rice is tender and has thick consistency.
4. Stir approximately every 15 minutes during this time period.
5. Whisk cream, vanilla and sugar together.
6. After rice cooks approximately one hour, stir in cream mixture.
Raspberry Fruit Sauce:
1. Use Danish Dessert, Raspberry flavor
(available on the baking aisle of most grocery stores).
2. Follow directions on box for Fruit Sauce.
3. Serve rice warm or chilled with warm Raspberry sauce poured over the top of Rice Pudding.
Notes:
*You may adjust the amounts in this recipe, but maintain a 5:1 ratio for milk and rice—5 parts milk to one part rice.
**NEVER use long grain rice. You may substitute medium grain rice if you are unable to find pearl rice.
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If anyone should be looking for Norwegian Receipes I can suggest a few Norwegian web-sites (giving you a chance to practice the language, as well)
www.prior.no, www.tine.no, www.matprat.no, www.gilde.no, www. aperitif.no
All these sites have a varitey of receipes, not only Norwegian food. Vel bekomme.
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I am just curious as to whether the sizzle has survived. Do any of you more recent RM's know what I am talking about?
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Does anyone have good cooking instructions for risgrot. All I remember is slow cooking rice in whole milk for a long, long, long time. But I don't remember the proportions of rice to milk and butter, etc. I do know that when you do it right, it is really good.
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Hey, I'm looking to find a missionary called Elder Erik Pond. He Served in Oslo 2 for a long time when I was younger. (we're looking at between 92 and 96 really.) If anyone remembers him or knows him please contact me!
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Hi friends, I just got called to Norway and I was wondering if you Alumnists could give me some help. What's one thing you wish you would have brought that you didn't? My cousin went to Italy and said no one told him to bring sheets, and he really wished he'd brought some sheets. Anything else out of the ordinary? Maybe a coat that you liked, or a coat you didn't like? Socks you liked, perhaps a clothes combo that kept you warmest? Anything to that effect would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.
Soon to be Elder Wightman
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ooooooh, that's a good one. Actually most of the city's I was in burned to the ground at some point. I'm not saying it had anything to do with the missionaries but there is the typical link of some fiction based in fact usually found in an urban legend.
Skien has a big sign on the gå gata with details about it being burned. And I seem to remember Stavanger also, but you (anna marie) would know more about that than I would.
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While I had heard about the Alesund myth, I heard another interesting story from my father.
While I had the pleasure of serving in Norway as a missionary in 1990 to 1992, my father is a convert to the church who joined in 1963 after coming to Utah for school a couple years earlier. He was born in Norway and lived there until the age of 22. He has distinct memories of sending the missionaries away from his door in 1958 because he was not interested.
Over the years he told me of a supposed incident that happened in his home town of Moss where the missionaries felt there was no reason to continue working there. They dusted off their feet as they left town. Supposedly Moss was then closed to missionary work for several years. I do not know of a time frame for this, but I heard nothing about it from the members while serving in Moss in 1991-92.
I know missionaries who served there in 1968, and met missionaries there in 1983,and watched the church being built in 1986. I am assuming that the time period for the alleged incident must be long before this. Perhaps associated with World War II. Does anyone know any more about this? Perhaps Ole Podhorny can add information on this topic?
(And just for the record, you do get used to the smell in Moss.)
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My brother had a couple of the same sister missionaries that wanted to turn water into gas. And this isn't my brother who served in Norway it was the one who served in New Jersey ;)
Also the missionary who could watch any movie he wanted, that guy was on my mission. Not lying when I say he got up in Zone Conference and made reference to movies he had recently seen, in his testimony!! The reason I know they were movie references, he gave us the name of the movie; brilliant!
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There's also the what I believe to be a fictional story that I heard about a couple of Sister missionaries that ran out of gasoline on Sunday and decided to fill up thier tank with water and pray & have faith. Well, needless to say, they broke the car. My trainer said that it was about 5 years back, my follow-up trainer gave actual names of sisters that had recently left the mission.
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Remember the one about the missionary who could see any movie he wanted to?
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I also heard the story about the Finnish missionary whose brain froze...
and now that Jeremy mentions Pres. Halvorsen being connected to the other story, I remembered that the way I heard the story, it was still an arm that had been damaged, but according to the account I heard, it all happened back when Pres. Halvorsen himself had been a missionary in Norway and it happened to his companion or something like that...not Halvorsen himself...and not while Halvorsen was mission president.
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I heard the broken leg story in 1991 and I heard that it was our currently-serving mission president President Halvorsen who had done the casting out--making the story particularly relevant and believeable.
I also remember hearing the story of the Finnish missionary who had forgotten his stocking cap and was riding his bike in some cold weather and after going down a hill, developed a terrible headache. His comp took him to the doctor and the doctor told him that his BRAIN HAD FROZEN and that he would be dead within the next half hour! After returning home, I found out that the Swedish missionaries heard that story, only it was a Norwegian missionary and the Finns heard that it was a Swedish missionary.
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This August it will be 25 years since I joined the church, and with the missionary who baptized me, Elder Tom Moore, I still have contact. But I need some help, I would like to get in touch with the elder who first street-contacted me in May 1981, Elder Darrington, and the sister who finally got triggered my decision to get baptized in August 1981, Sister Dolinsky. Does anyone on the list have any contact with either Elder Darrington or Sister Dolinsky (probably married now) I would love to hear from you.
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As usual, these stories circulate missions and have no factual base. What about the missionaries in a car crash and no vital organs were injured due to their garements. I am pretty convinced that none of these things happened but I guess it fill in time on p days!
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I heard this same story in 1989 about an elder in Norway being healed by some pentacostal and then the mission president casting out the evil spirit. When I heard the story, though, it was the elder's arm, not his leg that was affected.
I'm sure there is little, if any, truth to the story.
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These are similar to "urban legends". While on my mission from 1995 to 1997 I heard one of these mission myths. What I heard may or may not be true but I thought I would post it to see if there was any validity to it.
I had just gone to a pentacostal meeting in town and sat in the back trying not to distract from their meeting. All around us there were people "speaking in tongues" and shaking. A few days later we ( I believe my companion was elder Shupe at the time since the experience was in Oslo) were talking to another elder about our experience and asked him if the spirit could and would take part in such a meeting.
Instead of giving a direct answer he told us a story to answer our question. He told us of an elder who an earlier companion had known who had the misfortune of breaking his leg. Well while laid up this elder thought that he would go to one of these pentacostal meetings and be "healed". This way when he wasn't healed he could show them that their church didn't have the priesthood. While at the meeting he didn't wear his badge or let the "healer" know he was an LDS elder. He went up the preacher put his hand on him and pronounced him "healed". The elder walked away without any effects of a broken leg. The elder became confused and shaken in his testimony so he went to see the mission president to see how this could have happened. After listening to the story the mission president stood up put his hands on the elder's head and cast out the "evil spirit". At that very moment his leg became broken again.
I was amazed at the story and thought, that since this happened to a missionary that this elder's companion had worked with it could certainly be true.
A year later I was home and this topic came up and I told the story to my mother. Her response astonished me. She said that she had heard that story and that it had happened to an elder's companion whom she had know while she was on her mission in Norway. My mother served as a missionary in Norway in the Early 70's.
This has all the makings of an urban legend (mission myth). It happens to a friend of a friend and there are enough details to make it believable but too ambiguous for it to be verifiable.
So I have a couple of things, first has anyone else heard this and can it be verified with names, dates and whitnesses? And second are there any other mission myths that exist?
Have a great day and kirken er sann!!
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I received 28 responses to my message posted last week. It was great fun and very helpful.
Passing on this info to anybody who might be wondering, there are two good options.
International calling cards can be purchased on line at masterbell.com. One card was 4.9 cents a minute. It is instantanious and inexpensive. I also learned that calling from Norway is inexpensive as well. A missionary calling home from their apartment paid about $3.50 an hour (5.8 per minute).
Thanks to all who responded, Teresa Wood
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The following link is courtesy of Alumni Michael Bennion (73-75):
http://www.webcamsinnorway.com/webcams.php
So, if you are homesick for Norway, planning a visit soon, or just want to "look" at what's going on Webcams in Norway is a good site to visit.
-- Jim Jezek
-- DNM Webmaster
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My daughter leaves the MTC for Norway on the 1st of May. With Mother's Day coming up, (am I correct in thinking that missionaries can still call home on Mother's Day?) I'm wondering about sending her an AT&T calling card before she leaves. Would that be against Mission rules and could she make an international call from there to here using a calling card? I know they work from here to there. if anybody knows please E-mail me at pumpkin@burgoyne.com thanks
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