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Material Things and more Stuff 29 Sep 2004
Apostol you crack me up! Now that you know the bitter, you need to experience the sweet. Find a woman bro!

To Jesse Sparks- about the digital camera...The only down fall would be whether or not you could find somewhere to develop them in your areas. Like mentioned before there will be many people who request pictures from you. Some of my copies were sent home in letters, the rest I gave to the locals so they could remember my ugly mug! Other than that I think a digital would be great, I definately spent money on unwanted exposures with my "regular" camera. Good luck to you, you will love it there.

P.S. Do you know Blake & Cindy Strong?
Jason S. Powell Send Email
 
I just had my BI-I-I-I-I-I-G BREAK to becoming a R 29 Sep 2004
Hey,

I just had a funny experience that I thought I'd share with you guys. Last Friday night I went to the Peter Breinholt concert at Thanksgiving Point with a buddy. For those of you who don't know who Peter Breinholt is...he is a well-known musician here in Utah and the music his band plays is pretty cool stuff. Anyways, I was supposed to be on a date with an extremely cute girl, but there is a long story of heart-breaking involved... (yeah, she took my heart and ripped it apart!) Anyways, as we got to the concert we started talking to this lady on the stage crew. My buddy Jeremy told the lady that I am Peter Breinholt's #1 fan, and that I know all of his songs, and that I have a pretty good voice. Then, as a joke he asked the lady, (Connie was her name), if she would ask Peter B. if I could get up on stage and sing with him. She was a weird lady and she took us seriously and she agreed to go ask him. She came to us later saying that she hadn't spoken with him yet, but that she was for sure going to.

Well, about 30 minutes later, just before the concert was about to start, Jeremy and I saw Connie approaching us. She found us in the crowd and she was walking towards us with "EXCITEMENT" written all over her face. She said that she had just spoken with Peter B. and she said that I had "better be ready" because Peter B. said, "if it happens, it happens." That made me pretty nervous, especially because of the fact that I did NOT know every one of his songs. So, within the next 20 minutes I made about 4 trips to the restroom to drain the giz.

Peter B. finally got up on stage and the concert began. At about the midpoint of the concert the band started to sing the song "You wore flowers" (I think that's the name of it). During the middle of the song Peter B. had some little kids get up on stage and introduce some of the band memebers while the music was still playing. When they were finished, Peter B. spoke into the mic. and said, "Nate...are you out there? Nate...come up on the stage!" I was already right in front of the stage dancing with some friends up there, so I walked up on the stage and all of my fear and nervousness left me. I put my shades on and Peter B. said, "Oh! We have a rock star up here with us!" He then pointed to the empty mic and I took my place as part of the "big parade". I had to support my Utes for Saturday's game, especially because of being in Utah county I screamed loudly into the mic, "Let's go Utes!" With the strings still a playin', Peter B. signalled for me to start singing along with him. I said, "Let's go Peter B!" and we began to sing. As we were singing he pointed to me a couple of different times, giving me a few lines of singing solo. I then finished off with a solo singing the last "Hi hi hi hi hiiiiii" of the song. So, there ya have it...I got to sing for about 3 minutes with Peter Breinholt, in in front of an audience of about 3-4 thousand people. It was pretty sweet! All my life I've been waiting for my moment under the spotlights, and of course I was a natural rock star up there! It was a fun time so I thought I'd tell you guys about it!
Nathan T. Rees Send Email
 
Expanding my Options 27 Sep 2004
In reply to a question, I have not considered marrying a Filipina as of yet. Since my string of bad luck in dating and maintaining relationships, I have been curious as to all the good and bad of expanding my dating options.
Andrew Graham Send Email
 
stuff 26 Sep 2004
ive had 25 years experience being single, and i think it's pretty awesome too...
Tyson Apostol Send Email
 
Marriage 25 Sep 2004
Speaking from 4 meager years experience I would have to say that marriage is a good thing. It is something to aspire to.

I have no greater joy than my wife and my kids.

And...seeing as this is an RM page....I would have to agree with the former Sister McCall.

Kapayapaan sa labas.
Richard G.H. Bates II Send Email
 
just a couple of questions 23 Sep 2004
Where in provo is the sampaguita garden resturant. Also Mr. graham why are you asking about marrying a philipina? If you care to share. As to the lock your heart comment: this is after all A Majortiy RM web page. Why should there not be talk of marriage. I mean please! What are you waiting for. lol. biro lang. Good Luck to Jesse Sparks it will be a great mission! And yes some of these comment/questions are a little late.
Julie McCall Send Email
 
Boondoks 22 Sep 2004
While we are on the subject...try out Boondoks on 5th south in SLC by the library. Great food.
Boone L Cragun Send Email
 
Filipino Restaurant 21 Sep 2004
Hey everyone I found a great restaurant in provo. It's called Sampaguita Garden. It is also a filipino grocery store. They have Luck Me Pancit Canton with Calamansi
Bryson Tanner Green Send Email
 
what to bring... 20 Sep 2004
The only things you really need to bring are good, comfortable shoes (you will do a lot of walking), your scriptures, a dictionary, and the Spirit. You can get anything else like film, deodorant, etc. at the grocery stores or other tindahans. Don't worry about bring lots of anything, DEFINITELY not lots of pants. Trust me, you'll want to get pants made in the Philippines. Also, you'll want a lot of big, fat, ugly neckties! They're the best! :-) As far as digital goes, I wouldn't recommend it. A good camera will do you more good. Digital cameras aren't "uso" (popular) in the PIM. Maybe in Manila it would be nicer. It's more of a hassle in the sticks though were you'll be going. The technology isn't readily available there. And another thing, ANY type of camera is a LUXURY to most Filipinos you will meet, so don't be surprised if you are asked to take pictures for members.

Word of advice, love the people! Love the food! (Though I've heard there is a lot of "bawal" (forbidden) food now with the American Mission President.) But don't knock it until you try it. You might be surprised how good some of the stuff tastes! :-)

Be happy. Stay true. It's the greatest experience you'll EVER have!
Trevor Duston McGarrah Send Email
 
language 20 Sep 2004
I too agree that the first language you learn should be Tagalog. If you have Learned all you can in that language then move on. I have been learning new words still in tagalog and I have been home for about 6 years. When I first came home I worked with several Filipino's at my new job and worked there for three years. That being said I spoke tagalog every day for almost 5 years It has been three years since that job and I still try and speak most every day to someone and I still learn new words. So if you can learn it all in a few months go ahead and learn Ilakano otherwise learn tagalog well and like Bates said use the members. That is what they are there for. Learn the dominant language and how to teach in it and you will do well.
Jeff Quinton Send Email
 
Languages 18 Sep 2004
Well, you are not required to learn any other language in the mission other than Tagalog.

This is my recommendation:

Focus on Tagalog.

99% of missionaries will never achieve real fluency in tagalog. So, your time will best be spent focusing on the national language. Like I said earlier if you find an investigator who really cannot understand tagalog--and not merely the horrible job foreigners have speaking tagalog--then this is the perfect opportunity to bring a member along who speaks the same language.

You can learn phrases and such in Ilocano, Ybanag, or Itawes; but, don't try to learn to become proficient in them. Tagalog is the language you should learn. The majority of missionaries will serve their mission and go home not speaking the language fluently.

Now, I should point out. You do not need to be fluent in order to be an effective missionary. Remember it's the Spirit that will teach and no level of eloquence in the language will make you any more of a missionary than others. Nor will it magically convince people of the truthfulness of the message.

You should strive to be able to communicate clearly and emphatically. A missionary needn't be worried about possessing the vocabulary to talk about politics, sports, literature, &c. Learn the material in the discussions and learn to convey that material on a personal level.

This is why it is so important to spend your time studying Tagalog instead of Ilocano, Ybanag, Itawes, Ifugao, &c.

It's fun to learn a few phrases in the other languages, but to learn to teach and speak fluently in those languages takes real time. And time is something a missionary does not have surplus of.

That's my dos binting.
Richard G.H. Bates II Send Email
 
many languages! 16 Sep 2004
In the great PIM you can come in contact with Ifagao, Yogad, Ilokano, Itawis, and Ibanag. Any other language could be found assuming you have someone that came from another part of the Philippines. Then you could get so Cebuano, Iloilo, Pangasingnan, and Waray-waray to name a few others. But mainly just focus on Tagalog. Most of the members/other people will understand and be able to communicate with you if you can speak Tagalog. Ilokano will then be the next best language to learn a little bit of just to understand them. This is a HUGE help once we start serving in the far out barangays. I can't really say there is a third best language to learn though, because all the Itawis and Ibanag I met could speak great Tagalog. But yeah, stick with Tagalog and maybe a little Ilokano and you'll be great!
Trevor Duston McGarrah Send Email
 
Anthropology 15 Sep 2004
Two things:

(1) In their culture, topless is acceptable. In our culture, it is not acceptable.
(2) It is porn if the purpose is to arouse sensual pleasure

For insight, talk to an art professor about the difference between art and porn. That may help make it more clear to you.
Andrew Graham Send Email
 
Love the Philippines 13 Sep 2004
Well said Bates. I met Bates in my first area (Cauayan). I was new and was not at all adjusted to the Philippines. I watched other elders that were around me and noticed how comfortable they were with mission life. I was quiet and yet listened to what was said and how it was said. The elders who loved the people and the place they were serving were happy. I strived to do this in my mission and only now that i am home and long to return to the land of rice and hot and spicy tuna do i realise how much the Philippines is part of me and who I am today. I love that place that allowed me to push myself beyond my limits, and gave me scabies (thanks Christensen). I never got to ride the EMC air/con super deluxe high decker but the memories of walking the national highway to the next house as the sun baked my white skin will always be something I hold sacred. MJB
Matthew Jay Brown Send Email
 
Well Said Bates. 13 Sep 2004
Well Said Bates. Always good feedback.
Steve A. Hiatt Send Email
 

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